WAS ARJUNA REALLY A EUNUCH IN VIRAT CITY ?

Bhutta fans read epics just to defame protagonists of Mahabharat. A funny claim made by them is that Arjuna passed medical test of eunuch in Virata city hence he was a certified eunuch. Actually Urvashi's curse has been removed in the critical edition thats the reason those morons are claiming it.

The narrative used by them is:-

 Virata Parva, Chapter No. 10 (Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation)

Vaishampayana said, ‘Having tested Brihannada in dancing, music and other arts, and on determining that he was a eunuch, the king of Matsya permitted him to enter the quarters of the princess

Here it is mentioned that on determining that Arjuna was a eunuch, they allowed him to enter the quarters of the princess but nowhere it is written that how they determined it then Bhutta fans shouldn't use their own dumb heads to assume that how they determined. May be they could have determined it just by seeing Arjuna's feminine cloths or believing in his words, who knows there may be many reasons, right ? Nowhere written that Arjuna had given any medical test there. ROFL

Also Lord Yama had given a boon to Yudhisthira that whatever forms they will assume, they will be disguised and no one will be able to recognize them

Vana Parva, Chapter No. 298 (Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation)

‘Yudhishthira said, “The twelve years of dwelling in the forest have passed and the

thirteenth has arrived. Wherever we may live, may people not be able to recognize us.”’

Vaishampayana said, ‘The illustrious one granted him that boon. He again comforted Kounteya, for whom truth was his valour. “O descendant of the Bharata lineage! Even if you travel the earth in your own forms, no one in the three worlds will be able to recognize you. O extender of the Kuru lineage! Through my favours, you will spend the thirteenth year, hidden and undetected, in the city of Virata. Whatever form each of you desires to assume in

your mind, that will be the disguise you will adopt according to your wishes. 

At last, Arjuna also accepted before Uttara that he was not a eunuch in Virata city

Virata Parva, Chapter No. 40 (Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation)

‘Arjuna replied, “I am telling you truthfully, I have observed this vow for a year, on the

instructions of my elder brother. I have observed brahmacharya. O mighty-armed one! I am not a eunuch, but united with dharma, have followed another. O son of a king! Know that my vow has been completed.

-Avenger

DRAUPADI :- THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRL OF HER TIME

When we talk about humans then gods and goddess aren't included there.Draupadi was the most beautiful lady of her time in Mahabharata. The epic sings the glory of her beauty countless times but it is not possible to mention all those narratives so I will post some of narratives which talks about her beauty. 

1) Draupadi's description by Vaishampayana

A) Adi Parva, Chapter No.57, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

From the sacrificial altar was born Krishna, beautiful and radiant. She had a fascinating body and shone with supreme beauty.

B)  Virata Parva, Chapter No. 19, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Vaishampayana said, ‘Narrating her miseries to Bhimasena, the beautiful Krishna wept silently and glanced towards Bhimasena

C)  Vana Parva, Chapter No. 248, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

In that deserted forest, he saw the

famous Droupadi, the beloved wife of the Pandavas, standing at the gate of the hermitage. Her form was radiant in its supreme beauty. 

D) Vana Parva, Chapter No. 252, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

 Vaishampayana said, ‘Her beautiful face was crimson with anger. Her eyes were red with anger. Her knitted brows were raised. With her face suffused, 

E) Vana Parva, Chapter No. 141, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Vaishampayana said, ‘Then the beautiful Krishna laughed and spoke these words. “O descendant of the Bharata lineage, I will travel. Do not be anxious on my account.”

2) Vaishampayana agains calls Draupadi the most beautiful women

Adi Parva, Chapter No. 189, Mahabharata CE by BORI

He ordained that the woman, the most beautiful in the worlds, who was none other than Shri herself, would be their wife in the world of men

3) Description of Draupadi during her birth.

Adi Parva, Chapter No. 155, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Then a young maiden arose

from the centre of the altar. She was blessed with good fortune and was known as Panchali. She was beautiful and her waist was shaped like an altar. She was dark. Her eyes were like the petals of lotuses. Her hair was dark blue and curled. She was truly a goddess born in

human form. The sweet fragrance of blue lotuses emanated from her body, a full 2 miles away. Her form and supreme beauty were such that she had no equal on earth.

4) Description of Draupadi by the Brahmanas

 Adi Parva, Chapter No.175, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

The great-souled Yajnasena Drupada obtained a daughter from the middle of the sacrificial altar and her eyes are like lotus petals, with unblemished features and beauty, youth and intelligence. 

His sister is the slender-waisted Droupadi whose form is flawless. Her body emits

the fragrance of a blue lotus from a distance of one krosha. 

5) Drupada considered Draupadi to be deserving for being the wife of Pandavas due to her beauty

 Adi Parva, Chapter No. 189, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

King Drupada was surprised and pleased. With the power of divine maya that is beyond measure, he saw that supreme of women, Shri personified. In beauty, splendour and fame, he saw her to be the

right wife for those Indras on earth.

6) Draupadi is again praised for her beauty

Adi Parva, Chapter No.191, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

‘Lovingly, Pritha bestowed her blessings on Droupadi, endowed with beauty and auspicious marks and with a pure disposition and good character. 

7) Description of Draupadi by Dhritrashtra

A) Adi Parva, Chapter No. 198, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

O kshatta! Go and honourably bring them and their mother here. O descendant of the Bharata lineage! Also bring with them Krishna of divine beauty.

B) Sabha Parva, Chapter No. 72, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

By dragging the ascetic Panchali into the middle of the sabha, those evil ones have caused this terrible calamity that makes the hair on the body stand up. She is beautiful and she is not born from a womb. She has been born from the fire. 

8) Let's see what Vikarna has to say

 Sabha Parva, Chapter No. 61, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

O kings! Reflect on the question that the

beautiful Droupadi has repeatedly asked. 

9) Jayadratha about Draupadi's beauty 

A) Vana Parva, Chapter No. 248, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Is she human? I do not desire to marry, since I have seen this extremely beautiful lady.

B) Such a beauty Draupadi possessed, that every other woman seems to be monkey to Jayadratha 

  Vana Parva, Chapter No. 251, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

 O mighty-armed one! I tell you truthfully. Now that I have seen this lady, all other

women seem like monkeys to me

10)  Description of Draupadi by Kotikashya

 Vana Parva, Chapter No. 249, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

O one with the beautiful brows! You are as

radiant as the flames of a fire in the night, fanned by the wind. You are endowed with

supreme beauty

11) Description of Draupadi by maid of Pandavas 

Vana Parva, Chapter No.253, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Your loved one’s face has a fine nose and beautiful eyes. Her brilliant

and pure face is as beautiful as the moonlight. 

12) Sudeshna about Draupadi 

A) Virata Parva, Chapter No. 18, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

 Sairandhri is beautiful in form

and Ballava is extremely handsome. 

B) Virata Parva, Chapter No. 08, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

What man will you not infatuate? When King Virata sees your superhuman beauty

C)  Virata Parva, Chapter No. 23, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

“O Sairandhri! Swiftly go wherever you desire to go. O fortunate one! The king is scared of being defeated by the gandharvas. That apart, you are

young and have beautiful eyebrows. Your beauty is unsurpassed on earth.”

-Avenger

BHIMA :- ONE OF THE MOST HANDSOME WARRIORS OF HIS TIME.

People always underrate Bhima's beauty but Mahabharata never underrates his beauty. His beauty is repeatedly glorified there. He was one of the most handsome men of his era. This post is just a tribute to Bhima's beauty 

Let's have a look at some of narratives about Bhima's handsomeness

1) Bhima's description by Hidimba

Adi Parva, Chapter No.139, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

‘On seeing Bhimasena, whose shoulders were like a shala tree and who was unrivalled on earth in his beauty, the rakshasi was filled with desire. She thought, “This dark, mighty- armed, lion-shouldered, greatly radiant, conch-necked and lotus-eyed man is the right husband for me

2) Bhima's description by Vaishyampyana

A) Vana Parva, Chapter No. 146, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Vayu’s son, the handsome Kounteya, proceeded happily, as if in sport, tearing away many nets of creepers with the force of his thighs. The one with the beautiful eyes wished to do that which would bring pleasure to his beloved. The youth was as tall as a golden palm and his body was like that of a lion. He was as strong as a mad elephant and he possessed the speed of a mad elephant. His copper-hued eyes were like that of a mad elephant and he was capable of withstanding a mad elephant.

Points to be noted here :- 

- Handsome

- Beautiful eyes

-As tall as a golden palm

- His body was like that of a lion

B) Vana Parva, Chapter No. 146, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Pandu’s handsome and immensely strong son then swiftly entered the forest and filled all the directions with his roar. Hearing that terrible roar let out by

Bhimasena, all the animals and birds in the forest were frightened and fled elsewhere. 

C) Vana Parva, Chapter No. 150, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Proceeding fast, the handsome one saw bucks with does in the forest. They had grass in their mouths and their darting eyes looked at him. With great valour, Bhimasena entered the mountain that

was infested with buffaloes, boars and tigers, 

D)  Vana Parva, Chapter No.157, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

The scorcher of enemies was maddened by Droupadi’s words. The mighty-armed one could not stand it, like an excellent bull that has been beaten. His gait was

like that of a lion or a bull. He was handsome and noble. His complexion was like that of gold. He was spirited and strong, powerful and proud. The brave Pandava’s eyes were red and his shoulders were wide. He was like a maddened elephant in his valour. His teeth were

like a lion’s and his shoulders were expansive. He was as tall as a young shala tree. The great- souled one was beautiful in all his limbs. His neck was like a conch shell and his arms were huge. 

Points to be noted here

- Handsome

- Gold complexion

- Red eyes

- Wide and expansive shoulders

-  Teeth were like a lion's

- Beautiful in all his limbs

- Huge arms

-   His neck was like a comch shell

E ) Vana Parva, Chapter No.157, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

All the beings then saw the handsome Pandava enveloped by the rakshasas, like the sun with masses of clouds. But just as the sun penetrates everything with its rays, the mighty-armed and powerful one, with truth as his valour, penetrated all of them with his arrows.

3) Bhima's description by Yudhisthira

Sabha Parva, Chapter No. 18, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

This handsome Vrikodara is supreme among all strong ones. What can this

immensely famous and valorous one not accomplish when he is with the two of you? 

4) Bhima's description by his descendant (Nahusha)

 Vana Parva, Chapter No.176, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Nahusha to Bhima :-

Look at what fate has wrought on

me. You are my descendant and you are extremely handsome. Therefore, you should not be killed by me. But look at destiny. I will devour you today

5) Bhima's description by King Virata

 Virata Parva, Chapter No.07, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

On seeing the supreme one arrive, the king spoke to the assembled citizens. “Who is this handsome and young one whom we see? He is like a bull among men. His shoulders are as large as that of a lion. I have not seen a man like him before. He is like the sun

6) Kaikeyi describing Bhima

Virata Parva, Chapter No.18, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Sairandhri is beautiful in form and Ballava is extremely handsome. The minds of women are impossible to fathom. But it seems to me that they are made for each other. Sairandhri is always overcome by pity because they happily live together. They have lived in this royal household for the same duration of time

7) Bhima's description by Sanjaya.

Karna Parva, Chapter No.55, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

There were also chariots and horses that surrounded Vrikodara. O king! O foremost among Bharatas! Having been thus surrounded by valiant ones from

every direction, the brave  one was as beautiful as the moon surrounded by stars. O great king! That supreme of men looked radiant and handsome in the battle, in particular, as beautiful as Vijaya was.

-Avenger

BHIMA VS KARNA (HOW MANY TIMES THEY BOTH ARE DEFEATED BY EACH OTHER?)

Bhima, the most underrated Kounteya was clearly one of the greatest archers of Mahabharata but people know him only for mace fighting. Anyways let's see how many times Bhima and Karna defeated each other. I won't include those defeats of Karna where he fought with mildly against Bhima and got defeated.

1) FIRST DEFEAT OF KARNA BY HANDS OF BHIMA IN RAJSUYI YAGYA

Sabha Parva, Chapter No.27, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

O king! Having subjugated Jarasandha’s son

and extracted tribute from him, the powerful one marched with all of them against Karna.

The earth trembled with his fourfold army. The best of the Pandavas fought with Karna, the

destroyer of enemies. O descendant of the Bharata lineage! He vanquished Karna in battle

and brought him under his sway. 

Among all Karnas, only Suta Karna was regarded as a destroyer of enemies in the entire Mahabharata so it is clear like water that it was Suta Karna who was defeated by Arjuna in Rajsuyi Yagya.

2) SECOND DEFEAT OF KARNA AT THE HANDS OF BHIMA

Drona Parva, Chapter No. 109, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

‘Sanjaya said, “Karna was without a chariot and was again defeated by Bhima. He ascended

another chariot and again began to pierce Pandava. They were like giant elephants, goring

each other with their tusks. 

3) THIRD DEFEAT OF KARNA BY HANDS OF BHIMA

Drona Parva, Chapter No. 109, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

In turn, Bhima pierced the son of the suta with three arrows and used another

seven arrows, with the force of Suparna, to pierce his charioteer. O great king! Afflicted

by Bhima’s strength, Karna was agitated. The immensely illustrious one gave up the battle

and fled on his swift horses. Bhimasena stretched his bow, embellished in gold. In that battle,

the atiratha was stationed like a blazing fire.”’

4) FOURTH DEFEAT OF BHUTTA KARNA BY HANDS OF BHIMA

 Karna Parva, Chapter No.34, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Thus struck by Bhimasena, the son of the suta, the leader of an army, lost his

senses and sank down on the floor of his chariot. On seeing that the son of the suta had lost his senses,

the lord of Madra bore Karna, the adornment of a battle, away on the chariot. When Karna was

defeated, the large army of the sons of Dhritarashtra was driven away by Bhimasena, like an army of

the danavas by Indra.” ’

Now See the defeats of Bhima by the hands of Bhutta.

1) FIRST DEFEAT OF BHIMA AT THE HANDS OF BHUTTA

Drona Parva, Chapter No. 114, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Karna used sharp arrows to sever everything that was repeatedly hurled

at him. However, remembering Kunti’s words, he did not kill him. Instead, Karna

approached him and touched him with the tip of his bow.

2) SECOND DEFEAT OF BHIMA BY HANDS OF BHUTTA

Karna Parva, Chapter No. 56, Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

The scorcher of enemies wrathfully pierced Bhimasena with

thirty arrows and struck his charioteer with three arrows. In the twinkling of an eye, the bull among

men deprived Droupadi’s sons of their chariots and it was extraordinary. With straight-tufted arrows, he made all of them retreat.

Other than these battles nowhere they defeated each other as nowhere the words like flee, defeat, vanquish, rescue e.t.c have been used for any of them in their encounters.

Conclusion:- Bhima defeated Karna 4 times while

Bhutta defeated Bhima only 2 times.

In simple archery , Bhima was like Raja bhoj and Bhutta was like Gangu teli😁😁

-Avenger

MISCONCEPTION :- SUTAS WERE SOCIALLY OPPRESSED PEOPLE WHO USED TO GET INSULTED BY HIGHER VARNAS.

We have saw that many clowns have whinned on many platforms that Suta's status was very low in society as they were outside the pale of Varnas. Either those clowns were manipulated due to unauthentic resources or they knew the truth but still lied just to promote the misconception. The most funny thing is that some of those clowns accepts Gitapress translation of Mahabharata only and reject the Critical Eddition but still claims from it. Now let's see what their favorite version says about Sutas👇

Gitapress Mahabharat, Virata parva, section-16

ब्राह्मण्यां क्षत्रियाजातः सूतो भवति पार्थिव प्रातिलोम्येन जातानां स ह्येको द्विज एव तु ॥

राजन् ! क्षत्रिय पिता और ब्राह्मणी मातासे उत्पन्न हुआ बालक ‘सूत' कहलाता है । प्रतिलोमसंकर जातियों में अकेली यह सूत जाति ही द्विज कही गयी है ॥

रथकार मितीमं हि क्रियायुक्तं द्विजन्मनाम् । क्षत्रियादवरं वैश्याद् विशिष्टमिति चक्षते ॥

द्विजोचित कर्मोंसे युक्त उस सूतको ही रथकार भी कहते हैं। इसे क्षत्रियसे हीन और वैश्यसे श्रेष्ठ बताते हैं |

Here it is mentioned that Sutas were superior to Vaishyas but inferior to Kshatriyas.

Now let's move towards the most authentic version of Mahabharata (BORI CE).

Once Bhishma says that Nishadas, Sutas e.t.c  are condemned by the four Varnas as they are the offspring of pratiloma marriage. As per Bhishma, Such a person will oppress his preceptor's wife and are the worst. I don't think that even Suta fans will agree on it because we don't find any evidance where Sutas oppressed their preceptor's wives, neither it was true at all.

I don't know that why do Suta fans want to prove Suta community as a wretch community by using Bhisma's statement whereas neither Sutas were worst people, nor their status was low.

What was the actual status of Suta community in society we will see it in this thread.

Suta was a respected community and no where it's members were oppressed by the higher Varnas, they used to live happily and were involved in every profession.

Let's have a look at some examples

1) Karna , who was called the son of Suta was a fighter and even became the king of Anga and was respected by Duryodhana and other Kshtriyas

Note:- Bhishma and Shalya had insulted Karna a few times but there are some reasons of them using harsh words towards Karna in some occasions which are clearly mentioned in Mahabharata.

2)  The other sons of Adhirata were also warriors, it means a Suta can practice the dharma of Kshatriyas.

3) Sauti's father was a disciple of Lord Vyasa and obtained scriptural knowledge from him. It itself proves that they were allowed to study even from top level Gurus.

Adi Parva, Chapter No. 13 ( Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation )

Souti said, ‘The wise know this ancient story as history. It was recounted by Krishna Dvaipayana to the inhabitants of the Naimisharanya. At the request of the Brahmanas, my learned father Lomaharshana, Vyasa’s disciple and a suta, once narrated it. O Shounaka! I

was present at the time. Since you have asked me, I shall recount the story of Astika exactly as I heard it.

4) Sauti:-  He is the main narrator of Mahabharata and was a respectable person.

Adi Parva,  Chapter No. 01, ( Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation )

Ugrashrava, the son of Lomaharshana and the son of a suta, learned in the Puranas, and also known as Souti, once approached them, bowing in humility. When he reached the hermitage of Naimisharanya, the hermits who were the inhabitants,

surrounded him, wishing to hear his wonderful stories. Having been respectfully welcomed by those sages, 

5) Sanjaya:- The chief advisor and a massenger of King Dhristrastra as well as the narrator of entire Kurukshetra War

Ashramavasa Parva, Chapter No. 22 ( Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation )

Vidura decided that the time was right for him to also go to the forest with the king. The chief adviser and suta, Sanjaya, Gavalgana’s son, also took the same decision. 

6) Bandi :- A top debator, who defeated Ashtavakra's father(A Brahmana) but was defeated by Ashtavakra. Bandi was expert in the knowledge of Vedas and was treated very well by his king. It also proves that Sutas can study the Vedas.

Vana Parva, Chapter No. 132 ( Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation )

Bandi was skilled in debate. The brahmana was defeated by him and drowned in the waters. ‘“Uddalaka got to know that he had been defeated by a suta

7) Varshneya :- A respectable charioteer of King Nala

Vana Parva, Chapter No. 57 ( Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation )

‘O Brihatsena! O fortunate one! As if on Nala’s instructions, go again and bring the suta Varshneya here. A great task has to be performed.’ On hearing what Damayanti had said, Brihatsena summoned Varshneya through reliable servants.

‘“Bhima’s unblemished daughter was well versed about place and time. She knew that the time had come. She told Varshneya in a soft voice, ‘You know that the king has always behaved properly towards you. Now that his moment of distress has arrived, you should help

him

8) Keechaka:- A powerful commander of kingdom Virata and a top fighter

9) King Nala:- He was a Nishada (inferior to Suta) but still a highly respectable King in society and belongs to noble lineage. He also took the part in Damyanti's Swyamwara. 

Vana  Parva, Chapter No. 50 ( Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation )

‘Brihadashva said, “There was a strong king named Nala, the son of Virasena. He had all the good qualities and was handsome. He was skilled with horses. He stood at the head of all the

kings among men, like the king of the gods. He was supreme to everyone and had energy like that of the sun. This brave king of the nishadhas was learned in the Vedas and devoted to

brahmanas.

 Vana  Parva, Chapter No. 51 ( Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation )

The gods stopped their vimanas in the sky and descending from the sky, addressed the king of Nishadha, ‘O Nala! O Nishadha! O Indra among kings! You are always devoted to the truth. O supreme among men! Help us and become our messenger.’”

Vana  Parva, Chapter No. 67 ( Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation )

Damayanti to King Nala:-

You are famous, wise and kind and have

been born to a noble lineage. But I fear that you have now become cruel and that is the reason my fortune has turned.

Note:- But it does not mean that all Nishadas were good because some nishadas are depicted as man eater and evil creatures.

10) Adhirata:- A suta friend of Dhristrastra. If Sutas' status were low and people didn't respect Sutas then how Adhirata became a friend of Dhristrastra ? 

Vana  Parva, Chapter No. 293 ( Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation )

Vaishampayana said, ‘Dhritarashtra had a friend and he was a suta named Adhiratha. At that time, he went to the Jahnavi, together with his wife. 

11) Daruka and his son:- they were Sutas but highly respectable charioteers among Vrishnis

 Vana  Parva, Chapter No. 19 ( Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation )

Pradyumana to Daruka's son

You have been born in the suta

lineage and you are well trained in the tasks of sutas. O Daruka’s son! You know the dharma of Vrishnis in battle. O Souti! Since you know the conduct of Vrishnis in battle

12) Yadavas:- They were Sutas as they were offspring of Yadu(Ancestor of Shri Krishna) who was a suta. But nowhere we find that their status were low in society and were mistreated by higher Varnas.

Yadu's father was Kshatriya (Yayati) but his mother was Brahmin(Devyani)

Adi Parva, Chapter No. 76 (Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation)

Yayati replied, “O beautiful one! I am not worthy of you. You are the daughter of Ushanas. O Devayani! Your father cannot marry you to a king.” Devayani replied, “Brahmanas have already been united with Kshatriyas and Kshatriyas have

been united with Brahmanas. You are a rishi and the son of a rishi. O son of Nahusha! Therefore, marry me.” Yayati replied, “O beautiful one! There is no doubt that the four varnas have sprung from a single body. But their purity varies and so does their dharma. The

Brahmana is superior to the others.”

Adi Parva, Chapter No. 78 (Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation)

‘O king! Yayati had two sons through Devayani—Yadu and Turvasu. Those two were like Shakra and Vishnu. Through that rajarshi, Vrishaparva’s daughter Sharmishtha gave birth

to three sons—Druhyu, Anu and Puru.

YADU HAS NOT GIVEN HIS YOUTH TO YAYATI , IT WAS PURU WHO GAVE IT THAT'S THE REASON, YAYATI WAS GIVING HIS THRONE TO PURU (ANCESTOR OF KAURAVAS) INSTEAD OF YADU THEN THE BRAHMANAS THEMSELVES CAME AND TOLD YAYATI TO INSTALL HIS ELDEST SON YADU (A SUTA) ON THE THRONE. IT PROVES THAT SUTA'S STATUS WEREN'T LOW IN SOCIETY. 

Adi Parva, Chapter No. 80 (Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation)

‘The king wished to instate his youngest son, Puru, as the king. But the four varnas, led by the Brahmanas, said, “O lord! How can you instate Puru in the kingdom, overlooking your eldest son Yadu, who is Sharmishtha’s son and Shukra’s grandson? Yadu is your eldest son.

YADAVAS WERE OFFSPRING OF YADU

‘Giving the kingdom to Puru, he accepted the vows for departing to the forest and left his capital with the Brahmanas and the ascetics. Yadu’s sons are known as the Yadavas,

Moreover, Shalya says that Shudras are the servants of all other Varnas but regarding Sutas, he says that they are the servants of Brahmanas and Kshtriyas only. It itself proves that the status of Sutas were superior to Vaishyas and Shudras thats why they were the servants of only two superior varnas.

Karna Parva, Chapter No. 23 (Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation)

Shalya says:-

It has been decreed that

shudras are the servants of brahmanas, kshatriyas and vaishyas. It has been decreed that sutas are the

servants of brahmanas and kshatriyas. They are not the servants of shudras.

Ofcourse Sutas were outside the pale of Varnas as there were only 4 Varnas but their social status were good in society and all the above examples proves that almost all the rights were available to Sutas and they were treated respectfully hence Bhutta Karnandus who claim that Karna and other Sutas were repeatedly insulted in their lives because of their caste is nothing but a big joke.

Let's end this topic with what Yudhishthir said:-

Vana Parva, Chapter No.177 (Mahabharata CE by BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation)

‘Yudhishthira replied, “O great serpent! O immensely wise one! I think that among men, birth is difficult to determine, because of mixed birth among all the varnas. Men always beget

children on women from all varnas. All men are equal in speech, intercourse, birth and death. The proof of this can be found in the words of the learned rishis, who have said ‘We sacrifice’ and so on, basing this entirely on conduct.The birth rituals of a man are performed even before the navel chord has been severed. At that time, the mother is Savitri and the father is

the preceptor. Before initiation into knowledge of the Vedas, everyone is a shudra by conduct. When there is a difference of opinion on this, Svayambhuva Manu

has categorically stated, ‘The observance of rituals determines varna. If conduct cannot be seen, mixed races overwhelmingly dominate.’ O Indra among serpents! O great serpent! O supreme

among serpents! I have earlier defined as a brahmana one in whom the principles of good conduct are seen

-Avenger

MISCONCEPTION :- SANJAYA WAS A BIASED REPORTER.

Bhutta fans are such frustrated jerks that they claim that Sanjaya was a biased reporter. The main reason behind this claim is countless defeats of Karna in the Kurukshetra War but no single defeat of Arjuna. These Bhuttas are not capable of digesting countless defeats of karna by hands of Pandava warriors hence they are creating a funny excuse regarding it which is really a laughable claim and nothing more. By raising such stupid thing they also want to convey to the Indians that they don't believe in the authenticity of Vyssa's  epic. 

Let's expose their funny claim and save Vyasa's epic from all those frustrated jerks and Anti Hindus who are on the verge of destroying it's authencity.

EXCUSE No. 1) Bhima just made Karna chariotless in their first two encounters on 14th day and Sanjaya labelled it as Karna's defeat but when the Kaurava warriors made Bhima chariotless, then Sanjaya did not labelled it as Bhima's defeat.

DISROBING :- Let's see the narrative given by them to support their funny claim

 Drona Parva, Chapter No. 104, Mahabharata CE, BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

With a broad-headed arrow, he dispatched the charioteer to Yama’s abode. In that battle, the maharatha deprived the four horses of their lives. O lord of the earth! With the horses slain, Karna descended from the chariot. The maharatha ascended Vrishasena’s chariot. Having vanquished Karna in the battle, the powerful Bhimasena let out a mighty roar that was like the thunder of rain clouds. O

descendant of the Bharata lineage! On hearing this roar, Yudhishthira was delighted, since he deduced that Karna had been defeated by Bhimasena.

First of all, where is it written that Sanjaya considered this battle as Karna's defeat just for becoming chariotless ? Did Sanjaya ever said that why did he consider this battle as Karna's defeat ? Then why these Bhuttas are using their own logic ? Fact is clear that a defeat can be considered on the basis of multiple things, for example see the proof below

 Karna Parva, Chapter No. 40, Mahabharata CE, BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

“Having defeated Satyaki, the immensely strong Karna wished to save the king. In the battle, he advanced against Drona’s fierce slayer. Shini’s descendant quickly pursued him from the rear, showering down arrows, like an elephant goring another elephant from the rear with its tusks.

Here, Satyaki was neither weaponless, nor chariotless and it was Karna who left Satyaki not vice versa but still Sanjaya mentioned this battle as Satyaki's defeat. Which means Sanjaya was partial towards Karna ? Obviously No. It means a defeat can be considered on the basis of multiple things (eg-performance e.t.c) and only narrator can take decision about defeat of any warrior in a battle as it is his duty. 

EXCUSE No. 2) BHIMASENA FLED FROM KARNA,BUT SANJAYA USED THE TERM 'AVOIDING' INSTEAD OF 'FLED',HENCE HE IS A BIASED REPORTER -

 

DISROBING :- The narrative given by Neo Buddhist Karnandus is :- 

 

While Bhimasena looked on, Karna angrily killed many Chedi, Karusha and Srinjaya maharathas. Bhimasena avoided Karna, supreme among rathas, and advanced

against the Kourava soldiers, like a blazing fire amidst dead wood

 

First of all, Bhima's job in Kurukshetra was to kill the Kauravas,not Karna.Bhima had vowed to kill Kauravas while Arjun had vowed to kill Karna.

 

Now check the below incident -

 

>> Sanjay used the term 'Avoiding' and not 'Fled' for Duhshasana also when he was completely Mangled by Arjuna's arrows -

 

Bhishma Parva, Chapter No. 106, Mahabharata CE, BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

 

Your son pierced Partha with sharp

arrows. Partha became wrathful in that battle and fixed arrows to his bow. They were gold-tufted and sharpened on stone and he released them in the encounter. O great king! These penentrated the great-souled one’s body, like swans entering a pond. O great king! O descendant of the Bharata lineage! Your son was afflicted by the great-souled Pandava. He

avoided Partha in the battle and swiftly found refuge in Bhishma’s chariot. 

 

 

Now Duhshasana was a Kaurava.As per the Logic of Bhuttas, Sanjaya reported against Kauravas.Then why didn't he use the term 'fleeing' here instead of 'avoiding' for Duhshasana when he is a Kaurava?

 

It means that Sanjay was not biased towards a particular side,he used these terms as per the situation,It's Sanjay who was present at the battlefield not the foolish Nangus

EXCUSE No. 3)  AS PER BHUTTAS,ARJUN FLED FROM BHARGAVASTRA BUT BIASED SANJAY USED THE TERM AVOIDING THE BATTLE 

DISROBING :- 

The narrative used by them is, 

Karna Parva, Chapter No. 45, Mahabharata CE, BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

 

Krishna told Arjuna, ‘The king has been severely wounded. O best among the Kuru

lineage! Let us reassure him first and you will kill Karna after that.’ Dhananjaya also wished to see the king who had been afflicted with arrows. On Keshava’s instructions, he abandoned the battle and

quickly departed on his chariot. Kounteya left, because he wished to see Dharmaraja.

 

Now if you read the complete chapter,it would be quite clear that Karna did not Shoot Bhargavastra on Arjuna but he shot it on the Cedis and Panchala army.Moreover,Arjuna was far away from Karna that time, fighting with Ashwathama.And in the Previous chapter,Karna had defeated Yudhisthira and wounded him seriously. So it must have been the plan of two Krishna's to meet Yudhisthir after Arjun-Ashwathama duel is over.

 

Moreover,in the same chapter,Arjuna also says that its not appropriate to leave the battlefield right now.But it was Shri Krishna and Bhima who urged him to leave the battle, meet Yudhisthira first then slay Karna.

Karna Parva, Chapter No. 45, Mahabharata CE, BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

O Bhima! Quickly go and find out about him. I will remain here and restrain the large numbers of the enemy.’ Bhima replied, ‘O magnaminous one! O bull among the Bharata lineage! You go and find out how the king is. O Arjuna! If I go there, these brave ones will say that I am frightened.’ At this, Arjuna told Bhimasena, ‘The samshaptakas are arranged in a counter-formation against me. Without

killing them, it is not possible for me to abandon these large numbers of the enemy.’

 

The useless Bhargavastra of Karna failed to give Arjuna a scratch.Neither did it killed any major warriors in Pandava army like Drishtdyumna,Shikhandi,Yudhamanyu, Uttamaujas who all were leading the Panchala army.It only killed soldiers and elephants.

 

So when Arjuna was not even engaged with Karna,then why the hell would Sanjaya say that Arjuna fled from Karna.Does that make any sense?

BTW As i said before, how narrators used to decide the result of any battle is not mentioned anywhere then it is completely useless and foolishness to raise question mark on their reporting.

In  a nutshell,these idiots want to say that Veda Vyasa himself sanctioned the biased commentary of Sanjaya and wrote it in Mahabharata, thereby giving us a wrong impression of Kurkshetra war. By this logic,even Veda Vyasa is a biased author of Mahabharat. So Nangu fans should stop reading Mahabharata and create their own version of Mahabharata

AND STILL IF ITS NOT DONE,THEN LIKE EVERY LOSER THEY WILL CRY THAT HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY WINNERS.LMAO

 

RIGHTLY SAID - "A WINNER ALWAYS HAS A PROGRAM,A LOSER ALWAYS HAS AN EXCUSE"

-Avenger

FAIR DEATH OF BHISMA BY HANDS OF ARJUNA

HERE IS A TIGHT SLAP AND STRONG KICK TO ALL THOSE MORON KARNANDUS WHO SAYS THAT ARJUN KILLED BHISHMA BY CHEATING ! LMAO !

We all know that Tv serials and novels have tried their best to degrade Arjuna by every means. Thats the reason We see that those tv serials and novels portray Arjuna as an unfair warrior and made people believe that Bhisma and Karna were killed unfairly, whereas in the most authentic version of Mahabharat i.e BORI CE Bhisma and Karna both received fair deaths by hands of Arjuna. The latter is portrayed as most fair warrior who never perormed any wrong act. 

Now let's see fair death of Bhisma from the epic itself

1) BHISHMA HIMSELF GAVE THE PERMISSION TO THE PANDAVAS OF KILLING HIM 

Bhishma Parva, Chapter No. 103, Mahabharata CE, BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

O Partha! Hear about the vow that I took a long time ago. I will never fight if I see an inauspicious sign on the standard. O king! This son of Drupada is a maharatha in your army. Shikhandi is a brave and

victorious one who always desires to fight. But he was a woman earlier. He became a man later. All of you know everything about how this came about. In the battle, let the brave Arjuna place Shikhandi ahead of him. Let the armoured one attack me with sharp arrows. I will see an inauspicious sign on the standard then, especially that of someone who was earlier a woman. Even if I have grasped my bow, I will never strike him then. O bull among the Bharata lineage! Let Pandava Dhananjaya then strike me from every side with his arrows.Truly, with the exception of the immensely fortunate Krishna and Pandava Dhananjaya, I do not see anyone in the worlds who is capable of killing me. Therefore, placing him at the front, let Bibhatsu strive his utmost to bring me down. Victory will be obtained. O Kounteya! Act in accordance with the words I have spoken. You will then be able to defeat the assembled sons of Dhritarashtra in the battle.’”

2) ARJUNA WAS SUCH A KIND HEARTED PERSON THAT HE NEVER WANTED TO KILL BHISMA EVEN AFTER GETTING PERMISSION FROM HIS GRANDFATHER HIMSELF ON THE 9TH NIGHT OF KURU WAR.

Bhishma Parva, Chapter No. 103, Mahabharata CE, BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

Arjuna was tormented by grief

and he was overcome with shame. He said, ‘O Madhava! How can I fight with my senior, the aged one of the lineage? He is accomplished in wisdom and intelligence. How can I fight with the grandfather in a battle? O Vasudeva! As a child, I used to play with the great-minded one.

O Gada’s elder brother! I used to sully the great-souled one’s garments with the dust on my body, when I used to climb onto his lap as a child. He is the father of my father, the great-souled Pandu. “O descendant of the Bharata lineage! I am not your father, but your father’s father.” These are the words he used to tell me in my childhood. How can he be killed by me now? I wish that my soldiers are killed. I cannot fight with that great-souled one. O Krishna!

Which do you think is superior, victory or death?

Now let's observe the final battle of Arjuna and Bhishma :- 

1) SHIKHANDI WAS NOT ON ARJUNA'S CHARIOT AS SHOWN IN TV-SERIALS, RATHER HE WAS HEADING THE ENTIRE PANDAVA WARRIORS AND BHIMA AND ARJUNA WERE PROTECTING HIS CHARIOT'S WHEELS

Bhishma Parva, Chapter No. 104, Mahabharata CE, BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

‘Sanjaya replied, “The morning was clear and it was time for the sun to rise. Many drums, kettledrums and tambourines were sounded. Conch shells with the complexion of curds were blown in every direction. The Pandava warriors placed Shikhandi at the forefront and

marched out. O great king! They constructed a vyuha that was capable of destroying all enemies. O lord of the earth! Shikhandi was stationed at the forefront of all the soldiers. Bhimasena and Dhananjaya protected his wheels

2) BHISHMA HAD NOT SURRENDERED BEFORE ARJUNA, RATHER HE WAS JUST IGNORING SHIKHANDI WHILE FIGHTING WITH ARJUNA

Bhishma Parva, Chapter No. 114, Mahabharata CE, BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

‘“Kiriti, best among rathas, was protected by Krishna and in that battle, after Bhishma’s bow had been severed, pierced him with ten arrows. He struck down his charioteer with ten and his standard with one. Gangeya grasped a bow that was more powerful. However, Phalguna sliced that down with a sharp and broad-headed arrow. Pandava was enraged and

one after another, Savyasachi, the scorcher of enemies, severed every bow that Bhishma took up. When the bows were severed, he became wrathful and licked the corners of his mouth. In great wrath, he grasped a javelin that was capable of shattering mountains. In

anger, he hurled this towards Phalguna’s chariot. On seeing it descend, like the flaming vajra, the descendant of the Pandava lineage brought the javelin down with five sharp and broad- headed arrows. O best of the Bharata lineage! When that javelin, hurled angrily by Bhishma’s

powerful arms, was severed with five arrows by the enraged Kiriti, it was shattered and fell down on the ground, like lightning dislodged from a mass of clouds. 

3) AT LAST, BHISHMA FELL DOWN ON THE GROUND FROM HIS CHARIOT WHILE FIGHTING WITH ARJUNA

Bhishma Parva, Chapter No. 114, Mahabharata CE, BORI, Dr. Bibek Debroy translation

The Souviras, the Kitavas, those from the east, those from the west, those from the north, the Malavas, the Abhishahas, the Shurasenas, the Shibis, the Vasatayas, the

Shalvas, the Shrayas, the Trigartas, the Ambashthas and the Kekayas—warriors from these twelve countries were wounded and oppressed by the arrows, while Kiriti was fighting in

that battle, wishing to kill Bhishma. The single one was surrounded by many from all directions. They defeated all the other Kurus and showered him with arrows. ‘Bring down.Seize. Pierce. Tear.’ O king! These and other tumultuous sounds were heard around Bhishma’s chariot. Having slain hundreds and thousands with his shower of arrows, there wasn’t even

the span of a single finger on his body that was not mangled. ‘“While your sons looked on, thus the lord, your father, was wounded with sharp-tipped arrows released by Phalguna and fell down from his chariot.

LET'S EXPOSE SOME FUNNY EXCUSES REGARDING OVERHYPED DEATH OF BHISHMA JUST LIKE I EXPOSED THEM REGARDING DEATH OF KARNA

EXCUSE No. 1) IT IS WRITTEN SOMETIMES IN THE CROSS REFERENCES THAT BHISHMA WAS KILLED UNFAIRLY

DISROBING :- The cross references changes as per situation and opinion of characters hence it can not be taken seriously by any means. The only thing matter in the Mahabharata is what the actual event says about any incident. As we have seen before that as per final battle Bhisma was killed fairly by hands of Arjuna and there was no wrong act there which was happened. 

EXCUSE No. 2) Arjuna killed Bhishma unfairly thats why the Vasus was about to curse him/cursed him

DISROBING :- It is again just a cross reference and I have already proved that the cross references changes as per characters. The Vasus considered Bhisma's death as unfair death but the actual battle says something else

Btw unfairly does not mean unarmed

The same Mahabharata mentioned Arjuna many times as a fair fighter after the Kurukshetra War hence we can safely conclude that Arjuna never performed any wrong act in the war thats why one of his names was Bibhatsu and was the most fair fighter in Mahabharata